Useless things
This is a list of things that I know are really useless but I still do out of a voluntary addiction to utter uselessness :D
1) Yep - topping the list is utterly useless Orkutting - I call this utterly useless because unlike some of the more hardworking Orkuteers I know, I dont even scrap people , in fact dont even feel like replying to anyone's scraps even though they may be my dearest friends'
2) Surfing the internet in general - mostly useless again - what must one do with so much junk information unless it can be utilised in research or things that really matter in life - like God for instance :D.
3) Blogging - yep this is another huge time waster - I confess this on my own blog. Any voluntary activity performed for a sufficient period of time becomes involuntary - blogging is one such activity.
4) wow- the first three are all internet related !! That sure says something! however I now find newspaper reading also a time waster - because sleeping frankly gives me more energy, than the knowledge I gain reading a newspaper.
5) Thinking too much!-- this is also a huge time waster.
I have to find a way of doing away with all these five , though thinking will take a while to get over!
My life would have so much more time then!
posted by VKu @ 9:16 AM
14 Comments:
number 5 answers this: 'why such a post'!! :)
your style has changed drastically!! when'd you become so pious. good going, though haven't heard from you in a while! :)
lol...havent heard from you either. The pious-ness (is that a word?) was just waiting to happen :)
:D
is this going to turn into a chat thread??
ofcourse piousness is a word. So is awesomeness... your reflections are deep, really... bhagwaan sabko khush rakhta hai??
bhagwan sabko khush rakhta hai - aisa nahin - bhagwan swayam khushi hai - aur hum bhagwan ke ansh hain jo unse alag ho gaye hain - har ansh apne sva anshi ko chahta hai - isliye hum bhi khushi chahte hain - bhagwan se poochne par hume woh khushi avashya milegi
are you serious?? If you are, I can't believe it is you talking.
On a more serious note... agar hum bhagwaan ke ansh hain toh duniya mein dukh kyun hai? kyun dilli mein bum blast hue hain aur kyun ek ansh doosre ko tadpa raha hai
main yeh kadapi nahi maanta hi insaan khush rehne ki cheshta karta hai, mera maan na yeh hai ki agar hum antar dhwani sunein toh mann tranquility ki apeksha rakhta hai...
for further views boosting my point you might want to read my last but one blog post.
The question is, do you have the time?? :P
I have all the time in the world for matters of the spirit. :)
agar aapko yeh nahin lagta ki insaan sukh chahta hai to zara apne rozmarra ki zindagi dekhiye - aap jo bhi kar rahe hain - kyun kar rahe hain? iska mool karan aap anand ki khoj hi paayenge
sabse pehli baat - sansaar ka anand na hi aseemit hai aur na hi nirantar. hum jo anand chahte hain woh nirantar hona chaiye aur aseemit kosh ka hona chaiye, voh sansaar mein nahin, bhagwaan main hai.
doosri baat - bhagwaan ka ansh yadi sansaar se pyaar karta ho aur sansaar main anand dhundhe to uske man mein lobh utpann hota hai - lobh hi sansaar ke naash ka kaaran hai. bhagwaan koi dictator nahin hai - usne sab anshon ko karm karne ki svatantrata de rakhi hai. agar jitna pyaar hum sansaar se karte hain utna hum bhagwaan se karte to itna kuch na hota.
teesri baat - bomb blast kyun hue - yeh sansaar hi aisa hai. teen cheezein pramukh hain - bhagwaan , jeev aur maya. Sansaar maya ke antargat hai aur paanch indriyon evam man buddhi se hum uska anubhav karte hain. jeev yani hum(bhagwan ke ansh) indriya man buddhi se pare hai - jeev ko hi samajhne ke liye pehle indriya man buddhi ko jeetna hoga jo ki humse nahin hota. indrya man buddhi hi lobh ka karan hoti hain aur isi ke vajah se sansaar mein kleshnar avastha hai. jeev ya to bhagwan ke paas ja sakta hai ya maya ke paas - aur koi cheez hai hi nahin - maya bhi bhagwaan ki hi shakti hai. agar jeev bhagwaan ke sammukh nahin hai to use maya ke taraf chalna padega kyunki jeev karm kiye bina reh nahin sakta- aur jab maya use pakad leti hai to anek prakaar ki buraaiyan usme aati hai aur sansaarik dukhon ka anubhav hota hai use.
i'm a lil confused coz i'm weak in hindi. jeev = soul, right?
I agree to your hypothesis about the soul being pure and greed being a totally carnal vice. but my question is... why would god make us suffer when we're a part of him? you mean to say that the soul is a part of god but the body that covers it is totally free to choose on its own, the choice being made by a mind that is supposed to be a part of the soul... or is the mind completely outside the purview of the soul?
Every man seeks tranquility and peace in life. The reason is to make this life bearable and worth spending, coz lets face it... what's the use of existance?? I see it solving no greater purpose. All we can hope to do is life out the extreme quietitude of the universe for as long as possible and with a little shaanti in our hearts. That is in our hands :)
Don't get me wrong, I'm a very devout person, I just don't buy the idea that God creats us to remain happy and fails at it
ohh and i've even started questioning the sense of justice in this world and of karma... how good people are more often the ones bad things happen to and are the ones that suffer...
but that's for a later time...
Btw VKU, what have they turned you into!! how did this happen??? and immediately after college at that
hey- your questions are pertinent :)
1) jeev = soul
2) see - I view everything as the grace of God - even if one suffers it is only to teach one about the transient nature of this world - also - when has one remembered God when one is happy materially - one remembers God when one is in pain - so the only way God can bring us to Him initially is through pain. It is Gods grace given to a soul to enable Him to detach himself from the world and simultaneously attach Himself to God. Now there are different layers of living beings - the first being the five senses through which we can perceive the world of maya, then come the mind (that desires), the intellect (that argues ) ,the ego (that makes you identify everything as yours and is the another cause of fighting and misery. I remember once I was in school and during chapel the minister said that a way to look at the cross was a line across your "I"- philosophically implying that God would come when your ego was absent), and beyond all of these layers is the soul(jeev). The mind is the cause of all bondage not the soul - the soul is only looking for happiness - the mind looks in the wrond places and gets carried away.
The mind alone is the cause of bondage or liberation
3) God is all things - absolute happiness, absolute peace, absolute bliss, and absolute love - you attain him in the form that you perceive Him - which is shanti in your case - but no matter what the end result of all this is happiness . Consider why you want peace or tranquility for example - happiness is your answer.
4) unlike human beings animals do not have a distinction of right or wrong - but as humans we do and we must therefor utilise human life in finding our way back to the Father. That is the purpose. The Father could be in different forms for everybody - but all forms have the happiness and peace that a soul desires.
God's grace would also explain why so called "good people" are the ones that suffer.
"Bad people" are anyway not interested in pursuing the absolute aim of human life. It is the good one's that even think of searching for a God - because God has given freedom of thought word and deed to every part of him. So materially affecting such people is Gods way of clearing out unnecessary attachment to temporary things and people and delivering one to His feet - Once if we ask God speeds up the process. Maya is hence a tool of God used to make a person fit for the Kingdom. Look at the lives of the prophets if you will.
As for who is good and who is bad, who are we to judge being full of faults ourselves? We also do not know who may have done good deeds that we do not know of and who may have done bad deeds that we do not know of - our judgement is limited to our intellect and God is beyond the intellect.
and I have been turned into this by none other than God :)
you know, I'm starting to think that what we've been arguing about is infact the same thing. I might be on the path to that which you have already achieved. Joy of the jeev is extremely distant and yet the pull is undeniable.
Its just that the sufferings at this point are too harsh at times, and the question that i haven't been able to come up with a satisfactory answer for yet is the purpose of human existance. To be able to find our way back to the Father seems extremely philophical and to reach there is arduous, while other people (who in your text do not seek to find him) are extremely happy, whatever their karmas might be like. Our life is essentially the same amount of time, why do we suffer and others make merriment. My take on god is extremely esthetic to the point of reverment, but never pious. Maybe that is why i question the quest, but until I find the right answer, I am willing to do that.
We needn't complicate things by philosophical discussion - in fact God is not attainable by philosophical discussion alone. He is attainable by His mercy.
The purpose of human life that you are trying to find is actually happiness - it is a logical conclusion when you take into consideration why you want what you want - what you want could be the ultimate level of peace - why do you want peace - because then you would be happy. So therefore the purpose of all existence is to find happiness.
Now in the light of the above aim - we look towards the Father - because the Father alone has the kind of happiness that we desire. And since times immemorial there have been saints and devotees in all religions who have attained Him and His unending storehouse of peace happiness and love by simply loving Him selflessly. The path to that supreme Love is through love - love is indeed the journey and the destination. That is all that this human life should be all about.
Everything else is just a prop on a stage and we are just actors who have forgotten our true selves which are really a part(ansh) of the all powerful, all loving, all peacefull, all knowing and all joyfull one God.
alrightie then! thanks :)
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